…talk to him and exchange emails with him and kind of ask him any question I wanted, and he was very helpful. I call him Dr. Tim. It's not Leary, of course, it's a different Tim, but since I haven't checked with him, I won't go out and say his last…

…of ask him any question I wanted, and he was very helpful. I call him Dr. Tim. It's not Leary, of course, it's a different Tim, but since I haven't checked with him, I won't go out and say his last name, but he was another important person, and he…

…of the big pharmaceutical companies. So I'm sure he and Sasha had many good conversations because they had a lot in common. Dr. Tim, he helped me through conversation and sort of counseling, but not really training me or anything. And he gave me one of…