…Like to give you an example, it's an amazing fruit called the wild plum. Yeah. It's a hopper phylum. I think it is Catherine, if I'm not mistaken, hopper phylum is the name and it's the wild plum. It's an amazing massive tree. The most extraordinary…

…great grand rounds talks and presentations about science, but I didn't know anything about business. And so I went to my wife, Catherine, who's now the CEO of Apollo and my co-founder and, know she has a emerging technologies and and finance back public…

…have worked way less And so we really wanted to know if this is worth our time to invest in. And so we ended up, Catherine joined the team, and she helped us with, just as a volunteer, helped us make some pitch decks. And then we ended up getting…

…day. Right? So when we saw that, we were like, okay, this is real. We need to test this in the real world. So Catherine was able to raise a bunch of money from the university to make prototypes. We made 400 prototypes. We still were not certain we…

…were going to open up again. And we were just like, damn, this is going to be a situation. Like, what do we do now? And Catherine and I were talking one day and we were thinking about how all of our users, and we only had about 4,000 or 4,500 users…