…was both a humbling and a liberating experience because I arrived there very stressed, overworked, and they were quite right. But furthermore, Tammy, they said, we sense two things about you and you have to understand they didn't know who I was, what I'd…

…to make from yesterday is, as I'm engaging in this process with Dick and all the participants and with your facilitation, Tammy, I'm getting more and more clear on the similarities and differences amongst our two approaches. And what I'm seeing is that…