…even though every patient they see was traumatized. So that's what's extraordinary. The trauma, of course, creates that pain. Now, Keith Richards, the Rolling Stone guitarist, says it very well in his own autobiography called Life. He says that, talking about…

…of dying, a client told me. Sometimes I'm more afraid of living. And that's the real issue. That's the real issue. Keith Richards, the Rolling Stone guitarist, who, as you know, had a significant heroin habit in his autobiography, Life. He says, well, what…

…blotto. It's about escaping. It's the contortions we go through just not to be ourselves for a few hours, to quote again Keith Richards. Ceremonial use is to reach a higher level of consciousness. It's to be more connected. It's to be more aware. It's a…

…question in addiction is not why the addiction, but why the pain. Now, I just finished reading the biography of Keith Richards, the guitarist for the Rolling Stones. And as you probably know, everybody's still surprised that Richards is still alive today…

…reading the biography of Keith Richards, the guitarist for the Rolling Stones. And as you probably know, everybody's still surprised that Richards is still alive today because he was a heavy-duty heroin addict for a long time. And in his biography, he…

…feeling the pain. Well, that's exactly what it's about. Now, look, in terms of what you said about escaping from yourself, Keith Richards, who, as you know, had a ferocious heroin habit for a while, in his book, Life, his autobiography, he says, I'm…

…I do drugs is because I don't want to feel the fucking feelings that I feel when I don't do the drugs. And Keith Richards, the Rolling Stone guitarist, and talking about his heroin habit in his book on addiction, sorry, book on his life, same thing.…

…it's not just a substance, it's one's relationship to it. So that you can relate to a substance to seek oblivion, like Keith Richards says, or you can receive to some substances to gain more awareness. So the addictive use is always to suppress awareness,…

…making you feel more alive and excited temporarily. So it's always not why the addiction, as you said, but why the pain. Keith Richards, when he was talking about his heroin habit in his book, Life, which is his autobiography, he said... And I'm almost…

…mind structures to keep you from experiencing it. And I mean, one of them clearly is addiction. And, you know, Keith Richards, the world's most famous former heroin addict the rolling stone guitarist said about addiction for example his heroin use that…