…go? The grief of the disappointment of every American realizing there is no American dream. If you want to understand America, look at Donald Trump. All of this attraction to him has to do with, I think, rage, I think it has to do with violence that is…

…a parenting book. But when you turned your vision on, wait a minute, is our general society healthy or unhealthy? when you put Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton on the same shelf in a way, not that they have the same politics or, you know, but that…

…for five years. Who are they? So alienation, as far as I can see, is a defining word. for our time. And it explains a Donald Trump, as you point out in your book. You know, when I say the book is essential reading, I think if you're going to read…

…what your book makes clear, that we are in such deep trouble that when we're talking about the vision of a Donald Trump maybe running the country or a Hillary Clinton with all of her cynicism and denial, including her husband's behavior, but everything…

…two colleagues of equal standing in a particular profession getting together and writing a book. And also not in the sense of like Donald Trump with whatever his name was, Art of the Deal. I wasn't a ghostwriter. I wasn't. My dad didn't need me in order…

…individual that underneath whatever you think you believe, you actually believe about yourself. If you look at something like Donald Trump, there's a man who absolutely hates himself. He thinks he's worthless. Hence, he doesn't think it consciously. He…

…us. That's what it feels like to me. Like it's nonsensical. It doesn't make sense. You can't say why would poor people support Donald Trump when he is the least interested of any person I've ever met in poor people, right? He has no sense of who they…

…go? The grief of the disappointment of every American realizing there is no American dream. If you want to understand America, look at Donald Trump. All of this attraction to him has to do with, I think, rage. I think it has to do with violence that is…

…is it's not individuals. It's not Bernie Sanders. It's not Marianne Williamson. It's not RFK. It's not Joe Biden. It's not Donald Trump. There's a system in place here that'll pursue its interests no matter who this figure is. So I don't get involved…

…they'll lose in the general and It's like more and more people are like what you keep losing in the general to Donald Trump So I think we're gonna try this new thing and they're really worried that there's gonna be more Zoran style Okay, insurgencies…

…later on. So you can't tell from the outside without asking some questions. Or I can give you the example of a Donald Trump. who had a really traumatic childhood. I mean, his father was, as described by his psychologist niece, Mary Trump, Trump's father,…

…sort of addiction and the other got the same psychological reinforcement or the thing missing from power and work and money. Well, Donald Trump learned that the way to survive is to be aggressive and harsh and competitive and to get the other before they…

…to any kind of outcome. That's what curiosity means. That takes a lot, because people are afraid of what they'll find. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton both said that they don't want psychotherapy because they don't want to find out stuff about themselves…

…about this subject, people forget. They forget it was instituted by this president. One of the first things he did— By President Donald Trump. trump by donald trump one of the first things he did in his presidency was to have democrats flock to their…

…cancer. Correct. In my view, people that develop cancer have a hard time expressing healthy anger. Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump. There were two traumatized people fighting to govern a traumatized world. That's exactly what I'm saying. And these are…

…a certain way, but look at the internal life of those people You know they think the world is a horrible place. I'm quoting Donald Trump He said the world is a horrible place. That's the world he lives in He lives in a world. That's a horrible place.…

…may or may not have been signed by the time we air this interview, but regardless, it just seems to most observers that Donald Trump has got himself into something that he just is desperate to get out of, and that he was persuaded about the merits of…

…if that was to extrapolate across the region with everywhere else that Israel has gone after these terror groups. Because as Donald Trump himself said, you don't need to take down an apartment block to kill a Hezbollah terrorist. And if you keep doing…

…should also mention that I don't know if you hinted at that in your earlier question. Many people think that, you know, Donald Trump, for all of his power and, you know, strong personhood, somehow loses all of his personal agency and becomes, you know, a…

…big, deep-dive feature on all this, very well sourced from inside the White House Situation Room. And what is clear is that Donald Trump believed Netanyahu's prediction of what would happen. And the tragedy of all this is it all turned out to be untrue.…

…just for America, but around the world. Knowing what you know about individuals, what you know about the candidates, people like Donald Trump and Joe Biden, as well as the undercurrents of what's happening in society, do you have any predictions or insights…

…about 2016 is that the Americans had a choice of being too traumatized And there was the overtly traumatized, the overcompensated Donald Trump. And, you know, you can read his biography. He was a severely traumatized child. His niece, who is a psychologist,…

…nations in the world to support the Zionist project in Palestine. But, you know, if Keith Starmer in your country or Donald Trump in the States or Mark Carney in Canada goes along with that, that's not because of Jewish control or Zionist control.…

…who's a psychologist, married Trump. And she says that the grandfather, Fred Sr., was a sociopath. If you had 10 days with Donald Trump to resolve any past traumas, what would you prescribe to Donald Trump? Dr. Gabor Mate, thank you so much for being…

…Fred Sr., was a sociopath. If you had 10 days with Donald Trump to resolve any past traumas, what would you prescribe to Donald Trump? Dr. Gabor Mate, thank you so much for being here again. Pleasure. Why do you feel, so there's something, a book I've…

…of muscles, lots of armor. Selfish, suspicious. In other words, you'd have to be president of the United States because it was Donald Trump that said that in his autobiography. And he wasn't born like that. He was born a tender infant, like we all were.…

…would you prescribe to donald trump But what's really interesting is that in the myth of normal, I talk about both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, and they both had highly traumatized childhood. So when the Americans voted for one or the other, they…

…gets away with it and his ego gets larger and larger, he's not going to ask for help. Well, what if he did? If Donald Trump comes to Gabor Mate? There's nothing I can say to somebody who doesn't ask for help. Yogi Berra said a great statement amongst…

…people are afraid of you. Yeah, yeah. You'd have to be suspicious. You'd be president of the United States because it was Donald Trump that wrote those words in his autobiography, The Art of the Deal. I quoted verbatim. Wow. Okay, now, a few days ago,…

…psychologist. And she's written a book on the Trump family, where she describes what happened in the Trump family. Donald Trump was not born aggressive, grandiose, selfish, self-aggrandizing, suspicious. He was born an infant, ready for love, needing love,…

…very traumatizing childhoods. If I look at the childhoods of many modern political leaders today, severely traumatized people. I mean, Donald Trump, Trump is a poster boy for Trump. If you read the biography of that family by his psychologist niece. Yes,…

…in their immediate vicinity, and then sometimes it manifests itself in attempted assassinations of the current president of the United States, Donald Trump. So I want to put an end to decentralized violence, I want to put an end to all violence, and…

…country, going to No King's protests and rallies all around, that boomers are actually at the forefront of this movement against Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a mere expression, I think, of the growth of illiberalism as a reaction to capitalism and the…

…to No King's protests and rallies all around, that boomers are actually at the forefront of this movement against Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a mere expression, I think, of the growth of illiberalism as a reaction to capitalism and the inequality that it…

…who had not fully experienced the first Trump term would increasingly be invested in making a risky bet and vote for Donald Trump as he presented himself once again as the outsider candidate. So there were a lot of first-time voters and low propensity…

…as he presented himself once again as the outsider candidate. So there were a lot of first-time voters and low propensity voters that Donald Trump was able to activate once again just like he did, not in 2020, but in 2016. One of the problems that I…

…reality. They think it's all about themselves. They think it's all about themselves. When you see a narcissistic personality like Donald Trump, what you're seeing is a highly traumatized person who still thinks it's all about him because he didn't get those…

…These are just adaptations to loss. And the personality that we develop is not who we are. It's largely an adaptation. Donald Trump is not his personality, but he thinks he is. He's totally identified with it. So, another solution. So there's a clip…

…about the childhood of that man? It was painful. It's a painful book. Now, this man was president of the United States, Donald Trump. He said that in so many words in his autobiography. If you read his childhood, it's a highly traumatizing childhood. His…

…prefrontal cortex isn't working, and they're making decisions about other people's lives. You have political leaders, well, some like Donald Trump, about whom I've been saying since he appeared on the scene that he's a traumatized person. Documentary, I said…

…see us about these five black teenagers that were coerced into confessing to a crime, they weren't even near. And then Donald Trump called for the death penalty before the trial was even done. where the prosecution lied, where the police lied. And the…

…when they're done reading the book. I got some bad news for you. Oh, Michael Brown wrote that wonderful book endorsed Donald Trump. That's almost just almost unbelievable, but it's my Buddha teacher endorsed Donald Trump too. So I mean, you can be aware…

…you. Oh, Michael Brown wrote that wonderful book endorsed Donald Trump. That's almost just almost unbelievable, but it's my Buddha teacher endorsed Donald Trump too. So I mean, you can be aware in some areas, but not in other I know, I see that all the…

…ignored. The deplorables retort came that November in the form of a stunning political upset. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, the conservative columnist David Brooks wrote discerningly in 2016, both ultimately hew to a distrustful, stark, combative, zero-sum…

…people. Now his opponent, I could go into that, was also traumatized. So you're saying that in Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, there were two traumatized people fighting to govern a traumatized world. That's exactly what I'm saying. And Hillary's trauma…

…She mustn't be vulnerable. She puts up with the philanderings of her husband, who's as much of a... exploiter of women as Donald Trump ever was, just not as egregious about it, and she still justifies it. And so her message is to become inauthentic and…

…for a moment, but in the book, in the chapter on trauma and politics, we looked at two opposing candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Now, Trump is a As one of the world's trauma experts, Bessel van der Kolk said to me, is a poster boy for…

…that... We have another microphone over there. Okay, well... I read a few weeks ago, Dr. Montague, your article about Donald Trump and the brutality of his father, and you also mentioned Hillary Clinton having experienced something like that. It was a…

…perhaps a mirror relationship. And so I guess my question is, how in the world do we not respond to someone like Donald Trump when we've been brutalized ourselves? Are there some kind of attraction there, you said, that allows us to think that that's the…

…the book, I read extensively on these two rivals for the presidency in the first Trump presidency, 2016, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. They both said in interviews, almost verbatim, I don't want to look at myself too much because I don't want to…

…and lung cancer. And the average physician doesn't hear a word about that. It's astonishing. I can give you the example of Donald Trump. I mean, his father was a psychopath. You are the enemy of the people. Go ahead. For him, these were not choices…

…later on. So you can't tell from the outside without asking some questions. Or I can give you the example of a Donald Trump. who had a really traumatic childhood. I mean, his father was, as described by his psychologist niece, Mary Trump, Trump's father,…

…as sort of addiction and the other got the same psychological reinforcement or the thing missing from power and work and money. Donald Trump learned that the way to survive is to be aggressive and harsh and competitive and to get the other before they…

…the case of other people. It's not so easy to see in the case of yourself. You know, take an obvious example, such as Donald Trump, who these days presents himself as a case study in separation from the self. If you ask him who he thinks he is, he…

…to take that 100% accountability? If you are, you're well on your way. I have chosen absolutely everything in my life, including Donald Trump, including George Bush. George Bush was a hell of a healer for me. In those days, I still had TV. So when…

…they matter? Because they're all about me. Every single judgment I have of George Bush is about me. Every judgment I have on Donald Trump is on me. And unless I'm willing to take that level of ownership, I can go around the planet and be really true…

…this planet to learn to love Trump. Because what I'm doing is I'm falling in love with those aspects of myself that I call Donald Trump. But it's just an aspect of myself. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump. Does that make sense so far? Should we…

…in love with those aspects of myself that I call Donald Trump. But it's just an aspect of myself. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump. Does that make sense so far? Should we talk a little bit? So thank you, and very soon we will turn it over to…

…sit and tell you my story. Shine on me. And I will find a song. I've been singing. I saw you interview with Donald Trump. Oh, you did? And, um... I was actually quite struck, I saw the segment on his brother's alcoholism. And I found him unusually,…

…is a book about trauma that's been bestselling for five years and every week in the New York Times. And Bessel told me that Donald Trump is a poster boy for trauma. which he is in a certain way, because even often when people say that he's lying, but…

…for a moment, but in the book, in the chapter on trauma and politics, we looked at two opposing candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Now, Trump is one of the world's trauma experts. Bessel van der Kolk said to me, he's a poster boy for trauma.…