…really knows what she's talking about here. Here's what Esther said when we told her what you said. Tell her to read Emily Nagoski's book, Come As You Are. Nagoski, A-N-A-G-O-S-K-Y. Come As You Are. Because one of the things that's very important in what…

…Come As You Are. Nagoski, A-N-A-G-O-S-K-Y. Come As You Are. Because one of the things that's very important in what Emily talks about, it's exactly that, the brakes and the accelerators, the inhibitors, you know, the thoughts, the inhibiting cognitions, like…

…arousal. No. That's okay. And loads of people, particularly loads of women, have responsive desires. We're definitely opposite. Yes. So Emily Nagoski, in her book, Come As You Are, describes it very beautifully. You are responsive, but you're not going to…

…each language and in each country. Yeah. Okay. Definitely. Yeah, so grew up in suburban Connecticut, went to college in Canada, and met Emily there. So you both were actually kind of what they call foreign students. Yes. Yeah. I grew up in the suburbs of…

…roommate is a nightmare. And I have to move out. And like, what did I do? Yeah. And then? The night. Oh, the night. Yeah. Emily had something happen while I was back home. I was sleeping and she was out with her friends and came home and woke me up…

…them. That one's for them. I learned a lot at school and it wasn't all in school. Yes. And that's what I'll say. Emily was someone who was structured, did her readings. I, on the other, always went to class. Always went to class. Like, knew how…

…at least. I was happy to leave. I also think I should mention, and I don't actually think that this was so crucial, but Emily did have a boyfriend that final year. which we had not had before, either of us. That hadn't been part of the dynamic. Yeah.…

…relationship. And so we were both aware that, like, that's different than it had been in the past. Well, and I was like, Emily has, like, obligations and, you know, priorities. If she has another partner. Right. Exactly. But at the time I was like, it's…