…driven a lot of my research and writing. I would say that I like to think of myself as an exponent of the Karl Rove school of anti-capitalism. In the sense that, you know, Rowe famously said, you don't go after your opponent's weaknesses, you go after…

…what an economy is ultimately about. It is a very striking formulation. It occurs to me, I think, and drawing on your sort of Karl Rove point in terms of the strengths of you know the enemy it is one of the arguments that is made most strongly in…

…pretty much openly. So finally they figured out one that would work because they said, first of all, it's the Karl Rove thing, right? Attack your enemy's strengths. Everybody knows he's a decent guy. He's anti-racist. He's principled. So let's call him…