…kind of moral claim, I thought, it really reminded me of some of the historical work you've got, you know, stuff that E.P. Thompson chronicles, is this kind of strong and very ferocious moral condemnation of capitalism. Yes. Jim Scott is very good at that…

…in New York on the weekend, And some of the people were talking about William Morris, and William Morris was, and E.P. Thompson talked about William Morris. But they were talking about the education of socialists, which was a very broad term for them,…