…as close as you're going to get, isn't it? Here, I actually, I'll end with a story. I had a friend, I just read Dostoevsky. Have you ever heard of the Brothers Karamazov where they're talking about heaven and hell? No, I have not, but go ahead. there's…

…of... forced labor. People don't like to do things when they know they don't really need to be done. There's this passage in Dostoevsky in his prison memoirs. He was put in Siberia at one point. And he says, you know, if you want to totally destroy…