…in the Senate as she refuses to say she'll recuse herself if the election goes to the Supreme Court. A statue of Abe Lincoln gets pulled down in Portland. Is it time to reevaluate the greatest president? And a memorial for a founder of Occupy Wall…

…New York. I'm Paul DiRienzo. Protesters in Portland, Oregon, swept through the city on Sunday night, toppling statues of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt in a demonstration against colonization and the treatment of Native Americans. The action was a…

…in place after protests erupted following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Elizabeth Mitchell is author of a book about Lincoln. It's called Lincoln's Lie. She was formerly the executive editor of George Magazine. And Mitchell says Lincoln was although a…

…of a book about Lincoln. It's called Lincoln's Lie. She was formerly the executive editor of George Magazine. And Mitchell says Lincoln was although a great president, had his faults, including linking information to the media to obscure his plans and also…

…turns of who gets arrested and where the investigation goes, it turns out there's a whole lot more to the story. And in fact, Lincoln may have been covering up what was real news. And what was the real news? He had signed that very same day an order…

…him himself leaking his own news. Yes, or someone very close to him. If he had Twitter, would he have been on Twitter? Lincoln had this access to the telegraph and he would send out messages directly. The press had to just print them at verbatim. And…

…motion a dominoes that led to Little Bighorn. That taken away from the picture just for now. What does that tell us about Lincoln? For him to stand up against something that was so institutionalized in terms of slavery and so at the core of the…

…one individual. In the story that I tell in this book, there were heroes popping up all over the place to challenge Lincoln. Should the statues stand? If you look at those particular incidents with Lincoln coming down and Roosevelt coming First of all, it…

…heroes popping up all over the place to challenge Lincoln. Should the statues stand? If you look at those particular incidents with Lincoln coming down and Roosevelt coming First of all, it was one man who donated those statues to the city. There was no…

…mass execution in American history. The U.S. Army originally wanted 303 Lakota natives hanged for a rebellion called the Dakota War. Lincoln approved the execution of the 38 prisoners. And last month, a founder of Occupy Wall Street died. Occupy is the…

…point these things out. If you read speeches by politicians in the 19th century, I remember looking at some speeches by Abraham Lincoln. You know, when you look at it now, these guys sound like Marxists. They're always talking about labor and capital and…

…real creators of everything we see around us and ultimately deserve credit for it. Everybody's saying that. I mean, if you read Abraham Lincoln, he sounds like a Marxist. All those guys sound like Marxists when you read them today. And then in the 20th…

…in the 19th century. I mean, if you look at even sort of mainstream politicians, I was looking at speeches by Abraham Lincoln, any of these people, they sound like Marxists now. You know, everybody's talking about how, you know, all capital is derived…

…But prior to this, it was already a widely accepted theory and embraced by the working classes, especially in America. Even Abraham Lincoln declared that labour was prior to capital and should be held in higher regard. This was subversive, of course, and…

…Nowadays, we think that means capitalists. Back in the 19th century, you read politicians. I was reading the speeches of Abraham Lincoln. And to a modern ear, he sounds like a Marxist. Everybody sounds like a Marxist. They're all saying, oh, capital…

…value came to be almost universally accepted in working class circles. And even in politicians, you look at speeches by Abraham Lincoln. He sounds like a Marxist. But it took this very masculine, productivist kind of form. It's perhaps not surprising,…

…accepted as common sense. Everybody in the 19th century talked like we would think of as Marxists. We've seen speeches by Abraham Lincoln. He sounds like a Marxist. And the idea that spread was that it's labor. And they were thinking particularly of…